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antedeluvian   7/30/2014 2:22:33 PM
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It seems to me that I have seen the elbow bump as being an even better method of reducing germ transmission.

And I do know that there was some research that found that a kiss transferred less germs than a handshake. I know there was the research because I remember a comedy show showing a business meeting descending (ascending?) into a rather passionate affair. Whether the research is correct, I don't know. Here is a reference (google is a great tool!)

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 2:26:33 PM
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@Antedeluvian: And I do know that there was some research that found that a kiss transferred less germs than a handshake.

Don't get any ideas LOL

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 2:27:50 PM
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@Antedelivian: It seems to me that I have seen the elbow bump as being an even better method of reducing germ transmission.

I have yet to see that performed in public (much like the legendary "knee knock" :-)

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antedeluvian   7/30/2014 2:31:45 PM
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I have yet to see that performed in public

The residents at my mom's retirement village (where she is resident, not that she owns)employ the elbow bump. I just remembered where I had seen it used. That is in Johannesburg, South Africa.

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 2:42:28 PM
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@Antedeluvian: The residents at my mom's retirement village [...] employ the elbow bump.

Well -- I learn something new every day -- I just Googled this myself (you aren't the only one who knows how to Google LOL) -- according to this Wikipedia page, "An early popularization of the elbow bump began outside the Kalaupapa Leprosy Settlement in 1969..."

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antedeluvian   7/30/2014 2:35:40 PM
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Max

much like the legendary "knee knock"

That has a decidedly Goon Show sound/feel to it.

 

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Ariella   7/30/2014 2:37:03 PM
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I'm not very into handshakes myself. I mean I don't extend my hand first, though I will shake that of another. I recently introduced a couple of people just casually just offering names. They didn't shake hands. I don't know if that's a gender thing because these were women or if it was a contextual thing, as this wasn't a business introduction, just a polite one because I knew the two women from two different contexts. My guess is that men from an American or European background would feel more obliged to shake hands upon introduction. Currently, we're in a generation of obsessive hand-sanitizers, so I suppose many would prefer not to come into direct contact. I think it's an opportunity to bring gloves back as an indispensable fashion accessory.    

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antedeluvian   7/30/2014 2:40:49 PM
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Ariella

 My guess is that men from an American or European background would feel more obliged to shake hands upon introduction.

I find from my South African acquaintances (only male) that they extend their hand as they walk in to door, irrespective if they have met you 1000 times before. Sometimes also when they leave.

And I actually saw my Swiss cousin shake hands with his mother!

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Ariella   7/30/2014 2:58:03 PM
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@antedeluvian interesting, yes, some men do use handshakes as regular greeting, and in some more casual contexts that turns into slaps on the back, etc. As for the son shaking his mother's hand, that's an interesting one. We'd have to do some research to ascertain if that is indeed a Swiss custom or unique to this particular family. 

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 3:03:09 PM
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@Arielle: We'd have to do some research to ascertain if that is indeed a Swiss custom or unique to this particular family.

Remember that this was one of Antedeluvian's cousins ... just sayin' LOL

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 2:45:02 PM
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@Ariella: Currently, we're in a generation of obsessive hand-sanitizers, so I suppose many would prefer not to come into direct contact.

Maybe the Japanese have it right with the bowing -- although keeping track of how low you should bow to each person is a tad tricky.

I'd be happy do do away with the handshake and make do with a gift of beer LOL

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antedeluvian   7/30/2014 2:54:34 PM
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max

make do with a gift of beer

There could be problems there as well! Just make sure you get bottles or don't drink from the can LOL

 

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 2:59:47 PM
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@Antedeluvian: There could be problems there as well! Just make sure you get bottles or don't drink from the can LOL

Fortunately, alcohol rarely touches my lips LOL

 

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Duane Benson   7/30/2014 5:38:52 PM
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Better make it hard liquor. The extra alcohol will kill more germs. Make it a double, just to be sure.

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 9:22:53 AM
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@Duane: The extra alcohol will kill more germs. Make it a double, just to be sure.

I'll drink to that!

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Ariella   7/30/2014 2:55:33 PM
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@Max I also thought bowing has an advantage. Come to think of it, a couple of hundred years ago, the protocol over here probably included bows and curtsies. But curtsies seem to require a full gown.

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 3:01:33 PM
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@Ariella: But curtsies seem to require a full gown.

Well, I only ever wear shorts (or jeans) and Hawaiian shirts, so you shouldn't expect to see me curtsying in the near future LOL

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vvc0   7/30/2014 3:12:56 PM
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Maybe we should spring and get Max a kilt before the Union disolves so he can learn to curtsy properly. I think it would go very well with the Hawaiian shirt.

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 3:20:49 PM
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@wco: Maybe we should spring and get Max a kilt...

Have you seen those Utility Kilts? I once saw a guy wearing one at an ourdoor beer festival and I thought "You're a braver man than me"

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vvc0   7/30/2014 3:26:40 PM
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Wow, look at all the extra storage you would have in one of those. You could probably lighten your luggage a bit by keeping the stuff you want to access quickly in the pockets of that kilt. That guy had the right idea, think of all the beer cans you could stash. Of course, I suspect going through the terminal inspection process might be a bit frantic.

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 3:28:23 PM
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@wc0: Of course, I suspect going through the terminal inspection process might be a bit frantic.

The important thing is to rememnber to NOT bend over!!!

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vvc0   7/30/2014 3:37:49 PM
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Slightly further off topic, but not totally unrelated, you might have seen this already, but "not bending over" reminded me of this music video by Weird Al <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk>

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 4:12:53 PM
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@vvc0: ...reminded me of this music video by Weird Al www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk

Very clever -- especially if you watch it right to the very end

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Max The Magnificent   7/30/2014 3:29:32 PM
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@vvc0: Wow, look at all the extra storage you would have in one of those.

Remember that you saw it here first -- just another service I offer (my invoice is in the post :-)

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antedeluvian   7/30/2014 3:35:29 PM
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 once saw a guy wearing one

We once overnighted at a hotel just next to the Atlanta airport. We walked across the road to a Ruby Tuesdays for a late supper. I have NEVER seen so many weirdos in one place. For a while I was scared that someone would turn on us for being too normal. One guy who walked in was wearing the black kilt and he was pretty low-key compared to the rest of the bunch.

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David Ashton   7/31/2014 5:08:30 AM
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Two English girls, Jean and Mary, are at the Highland Games.  They are marvelling at the brawny scots tossing cabers around and suchlike.  Jean says to Mary "I wonder if they wear anything under the kilt?"  "I don't know" replies Mary.

Jean says "Well why don't we ask one of them?  You go and ask that one there, he looks friendly!"

So Mary timidly approaches the brawny Scot.  "Excuse me", she says, Can you tell me if anything's worn under the kilt?"

"Nooo!" he replies, "Everything's in purrfect worrrking orrder!"

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 9:31:14 AM
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@David: Two English girls, Jean and Mary, are at the Highland Games...

That reminds me of an old bagpipes joke.

 

So there's this scotsman who plays in a bagpipe marching band.

One Saturday the band plays all afternoon, marching up and down the high street.

At the end of the afternoon he retires to the pub (bar) for a refreshing drink. Half way through he leaps to his feet and exclaims: "Oh no -- I left my bagpipes on the back seat of my car where anyone can see them!"

He runs out to his car, but it's too late...

...even though he locked the doors, someone has broken into the car and dumped a load more bagpipes in there LOL

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zeeglen   7/31/2014 9:33:00 AM
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@David Ashton Two English girls, Jean and Mary, are at the Highland Games.

For more information on Jean and Mary's exploits, google the lyrics to "The Scotsman's Kilt"

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kfield   7/31/2014 8:44:03 AM
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@antedeluvian "I  have NEVER seen so many weirdos in one place. For a while I was scared that someone would turn on us for being too normal."

If you were the only "normal" one in the crowd, wouldn't that make you the weirdo? And how do you know that you're "too normal?" I know people like Max walking around thinking they are perfectly normal, but we know better, right? :-)

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 9:18:03 AM
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@kfield: If you were the only "normal" one in the crowd, wouldn't that make you the weirdo?

Ooooh -- it's hard to argue with logic like that.

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kfield   7/31/2014 8:42:12 AM
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@maxthemagnificent "Have you seen those Utility Kilts? I once saw a guy wearing one at an ourdoor beer festival and I thought "You're a braver man than me""

I think these are totally cool. Are kilts strictly for men, or can a woman wear one and would it still be a kilt in that case?

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 9:16:40 AM
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@kfield: Are kilts strictly for men, or can a woman wear one and would it still be a kilt in that case?

I'm not an expert in this area, but I think that if a woman wears one then technically it transmogrifies itself into a skirt.

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kfield   7/31/2014 9:22:44 AM
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@maxthemagnificent "I'm not an expert in this area, but I think that if a woman wears one then technically it transmogrifies itself into a skirt."

I just love the word "transmogrifies."

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betajet   7/31/2014 2:46:42 PM
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Karen asked: Are kilts strictly for men, or can a woman wear one and would it still be a kilt in that case?

My understanding is that for women a "kilt" usually means a "Scottish kilt" which is a knee-length wrap-around skirt with unpleated overlapping panels in the front called "aprons" and pleated sides and back.  When she wears it it's still a kilt.

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Mortal coil?
betajet   7/30/2014 9:14:38 PM
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Max wrote: Even worse was the Black Death... which ushered somewhere between 75 million and 200 million people off this immortal coil.

Max, I think you mean "mortal coil".  "Immortal Coil" is a Star Trek: TNG novel.

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 9:26:12 AM
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@betajet: Max, I think you mean "mortal coil".  "Immortal Coil" is a Star Trek: TNG novel.

Arrgghhh -- I can't believe I wrote that -- I know better than that -- I really should start typing with my eyes open -- I just went in and "tweaked" the article -- thanks for the catch.

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Bait and Switch?
kfield   7/31/2014 8:45:08 AM
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Hey Max, I was excitedly reading through this article waiting for more detail on the Zombie Apocalypse. I feel like you did a bait and switch, at least with half the headline!

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 9:22:02 AM
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@kfield: I was excitedly reading through this article waiting for more detail on the Zombie Apocalypse. I feel like you did a bait and switch, at least with half the headline!

Dang -- I suppose I should have closed the circle at the end by explicitly pointing out that, even though the use of fist bumps cuts down on the spread of infectious agents , it probably wouldn't help much in the case of a full-blown Zombie Apocalypse -- I hang my head in shame (sad face)

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kfield   7/31/2014 9:23:49 AM
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You can redeem yourself with another blog focused on the zombie apocalypse. Also, waiting for your slide show on protective tin foil hats for the apocalypse.

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 9:53:53 AM
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@kfield :You can redeem yourself with another blog focused on the zombie apocalypse.

I will try to do so in the not-so-distant future -- in the meantime check out THIS ARTICLE that lists the 10 biggest threats to human existance -- number #10 is particularly interesting...

 

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Wnderer   7/31/2014 10:48:46 AM
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@Max: in the meantime check out THIS ARTICLE


Interesting how this leftist website leaves out societal collapse, especially with the recent history of the credit crunch. It was THE big fear for the survivalists in the 1970's and with Y2K. I guess it's not on 'message'. Here's a quote from Wikipedia.

The House of Cards, a society that has grown to be so large and include so many complex social institutions that it is inherently unstable and prone to collapse. This type of society has been seen with particular frequency among Eastern bloc and other communist nations, in which all social organizations are arms of the government or ruling party, such that the government must either stifle association wholesale (encouraging dissent and subversion) or exercise less authority than it asserts (undermining its legitimacy in the public eye).

By contrast, as Alexis de Tocqueville observed, when voluntary and private associations are allowed to flourish and gain legitimacy at an institutional level, they complement and often even supplant governmental functions: They provide a "safety valve" for dissent, assist with resource allocation, provide for social experimentation without the need for governmental coercion, and enable the public to maintain confidence in society as a whole even during periods of governmental weakness.


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DougInRB   7/31/2014 5:45:25 PM
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It is not surprising that the leftist blogs leave out the most reliable predictor of the future - the Bible.

Guess what?  The combination of an evil dictator who tries to annihilate anyone who disagrees with him, and a bunch of well placed meteors is just about all it takes to bring down the bulk of the human race.

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My goodness, that's ten horrid ways to be snuffed out!!

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 4:23:03 PM
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@kfield: My goodness, that's ten horrid ways to be snuffed out!!

I don't think there's a good way :-)

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Garcia-Lasheras   7/31/2014 5:25:19 PM
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@Max: re zombies... if you were able to watch the Spanish TV, you would discover that the Zombie Apocalypsis has already started around the Balearic Islands.

Have you ever heard about the bath salts drug? One of the side effects when in overdose is that people gets extremely violent and uncontrolled... and even bites!! -- this very bad drug makes you behave like an authentic zombie!!

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 5:28:10 PM
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@Garcia: Have you ever heard about the bath salts drug? One of the side effects when in overdose is that people gets extremely violent and uncontrolled... and even bites!!

The world is such a wonderful place, why do people do this stuff?

 

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Garcia-Lasheras   7/31/2014 5:43:47 PM
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@Max: "The world is such a wonderful place, why do people do this stuff?".

All I can say is that, after watching the videos on TV, I'm afraid that the ones under the devastating effects of this drug were not enjoying their time... and neither were the almost 10 policemen that were trying to stop a single "drug-zombie" guy!

British tourist restrained by 10 policemen after biting holidaymakers on Magaluf beach 'while high on party drug Cannibal'



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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2014 5:48:29 PM
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@Garcia: All I can say is that, after watching the videos on TV...

Oh great -- you had to find a report about a British Tourist -- couldn't you have found one about someone from a country no one likes ... like France, for example? LOL

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David Ashton   7/31/2014 6:08:04 PM
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Given the misery that these drugs cause their victims and the rest of the human race in close proximity, it's time for the west to toughen up a bit.  Does the human race really need the guys who sell this stuff?  The death penalty is warranted for this I reckon.  

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Max The Magnificent   8/1/2014 9:54:13 AM
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@David: The death penalty is warranted for this I reckon.

You old softie, you!

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David Ashton   8/1/2014 8:19:26 PM
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@Max, well I did not want to offend too many readers... :-)

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"Given the misery that these drugs cause their victims..."

Referring to prescription drugs like the Fluoroquinolone class of antibiotics?
Cipro, Levaquin and Avelox should be taken off the market, and the FDA knows it!

My late wife spent a year crawling around the house on a construction skate board like thing, so her ankles would heal the tendon damage caused by Levaquin!

Prescription drugs kill and injure more people than the ones being fought against in the "war on drugs".

 

 

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Origin of the High Five
Max The Magnificent   8/1/2014 9:52:59 AM
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It's funny how things work sometimes -- just yesterday (only a day or so after publishing this blog) I heard another report on the NPR talking about the origin of the High Five.

It seems they can tie the actual date down to October 1977 in the Dodger's Baseball Stadium when young player Glenn Burke exuberantly ran onto the field to congratulate his teammate Dusty Baker for scoring a wicket or a field goal or something (I'm not all that familiar with American sports).

According to the Wikipedia: "Burke raised his hand over his head as Baker jogged home from third base. Not knowing what to do about the upraised hand, Baker slapped it."

According to the NPR program, the reporters started talking about it and writing about it and the word spread. In fact, believe it or not, the Dodgers even trademarked the High Five.

I learn something new every day...

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seaEE   8/2/2014 5:12:24 PM
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So basically you are saying that if this video were made today, it would be all fist bumps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQXqEAYHudQ

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Max The Magnificent   8/5/2014 3:02:11 PM
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@seaEE: So basically you are saying that if this video were made today, it would be all fist bumps...

Or elbow bumps if Antedeluvian's mother got her hands on them first :-)

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Nothing to sneeze at
antedeluvian   8/5/2014 9:28:07 AM
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Whilst we are on the subject of germ transmission- take a look at these sneezes

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Max The Magnificent   8/5/2014 3:07:50 PM
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@antedeluvian: Whilst we are on the subject of germ transmission- take a look at these sneezes

I'd heard about this research, but seeing the videos is scary -- it makes you not want to get close to anyone ever again!



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