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antedeluvian
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antedeluvian   8/8/2014 9:14:17 AM
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I wonder if Sir Francis ever had to cut cake for a bunch of kids. Mine would always complain that their sibling's piece was bigger than their own. His technique provides a continuously diminishing length of the cake slice- guaranteed to promote sibling friction. 

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zeeglen   8/8/2014 9:39:11 AM
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Not to mention that the final slices would result in "She's got more icing than me!"

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David Ashton   8/9/2014 8:02:02 PM
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@Aubrey....as the acknowledged EET Excel Guru, I expect a follow up article from you on how to make Excel display Pie charts in this fashion?

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Me too
antedeluvian   8/8/2014 9:17:53 AM
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Max

... we are informed that Alex has just published a new book, The Grapes of Math: How Life Reflects Numbers and Numbers Reflect Life. I've added this to my Wish List on Amazon.com, along with his Here's Looking at Euclid: From Counting Ants to Games of Chance.


I have had "Here's Looking at Euclid" on my list for several years now. I need to get a move on.

The "Grapes of Math" will now get added. Cute titles.

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Who needs math when you have fingers?
MeasurementBlues   8/8/2014 9:44:18 AM
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Cake, like many breads, tastes better when torn and eaten with your fingers. Challah bread should never be sliced, only torn.

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Re: Who needs math when you have fingers?
antedeluvian   8/8/2014 9:57:39 AM
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Martin

Cake,  tastes better when torn and eaten with your fingers.

That may be, but there is a whole tradition (to say nothing of industry) around eating it with special cake forks to accompany your tea, drunk with your pinkie in the air.

And on the subject of cutlery what about the cutlery used exclusively for eating fish, that is completely unknown to Americans.

 

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Re: Who needs math when you have fingers?
MeasurementBlues   8/8/2014 10:24:57 AM
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Antedeluvian,

A friend once claimed that you need 9 sets of dishes to have a truly kosher home.
  • Meat and Dairy for everyday
  • Meat and Dairy for serving guests
  • Meat and Dairy for Passover everyday
  • Meat and Dairy for serving guests on Passover

That's eight, why nine?

One set that's not kosher

 

 

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Re: Who needs math when you have fingers?
mhrackin   8/8/2014 10:59:27 AM
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We use paper....

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MeasurementBlues   8/8/2014 11:01:43 AM
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Same here.

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MeasurementBlues   8/8/2014 1:42:50 PM
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mhrackin   8/8/2014 1:54:05 PM
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Yes, one of the most popular topics in EET history!  I think of it every time I eat a bagel (like this morning).

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David Ashton   8/8/2014 8:47:19 PM
@Martin and if I remember correctly you advocated a correct way to cut a bagel, too?

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MeasurementBlues   8/10/2014 5:12:13 PM
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Yes, I did make a few comments on the proper way to cut a bagel. Slicing challah as opposed to teating it doesnt mean it's no loner challah, it just tastes different. For one thing, sliced challah goes stale more rapidly that torn because there's so much surface area.

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 9:39:20 AM
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@David: @Martin and if I remember correctly you advocated a correct way to cut a bagel, too?

For goodness sake, don't start him waffling on about bagels again LOL

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mhrackin   8/8/2014 10:10:59 AM
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My wife, now retired, ran the kitchen at our synagogue for many years and catered hundreds of bar/bat mitzvah kiddush luncheons and dinners along with a few weddings.  I can assure you that the Health Inspectors would frown upon your practice in that environment! What you do in the privacy of your own home is of course beyond the reach of those noisome bureaucrats.....  personally, as empty nesters, we use individual challah rolls Friday night, warmed in a convection toaster oven.

I have forwarded a link of this article to my grandsons' parents.  We just returned from visiting our youngest one for his first birthday.  He didn't care how the cake was sliced as long as he got PLENTY!  He is already an omnivorous chowhound (a family trait except for the oldest grandson), albeit with only 6 teeth....quite adequate for cake!

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Wnderer   8/8/2014 1:39:10 PM
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@MeasurementBlues: Cake, like many breads, tastes better when torn and eaten with your fingers.



Definitely.


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Bűche de Noël
betajet   8/8/2014 4:04:23 PM
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Max's 'blog shows the clear superiority of the Bûche de Noël over circular cakes.  The bûche slices reduce the exposed surface area.  However, I find that if any cake gets stale chez moi it must be defective.

Since Max speaks ill of the French I get his slice :-)

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Cake Cutting Technique
seaEE   8/9/2014 11:59:43 PM
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With regards to Max's birthday, I recommend the following cake.  It may be difficult to apply the cake cutting technique to it, but one could cut it, at least initially on the nose, such that only one surface is exposed--that is if one is courageous enough to get close enough to the lion to start with: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5591/14872632232_d08918314f_z.jpg

 

This cake was baked for me as a kid.  My assignment was to ride my bike up to the corner store to buy the licorice for it.

 

Now it is possible that Gina the Gorgeous would be willing to bake a lion cake for Max, but perhaps would want something else for herself.  Hence, here is a cute pink elephant cake for Max to try his cooking skills with.  Now as far as cutting this cake goes, it will probably require some calculus.  The Angel Flake in the rhyme refers to Angel Flake coconut, which is quite tasty to nibble on while making the cake:https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3844/14686284890_12d2a8ca78_z.jpg

 

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MeasurementBlues   8/10/2014 5:09:22 PM
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Now if only we could slip a few unintended ingredients into Max's cake while he's traveling to Brazil.

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seaEE   8/11/2014 9:27:52 PM
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MeasurementBlues said: "Now if only we could slip a few unintended ingredients into Max's cake while he's traveling to Brazil."

 
Yeah, like these:
http://www.candynation.com/pop-rocks-chocolate-24ct/?gclid=CNTlvsKiisACFQszaQodT2oAEg

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Max The Magnificent   8/15/2014 9:37:59 AM
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@seaEE: Yeah, like these:
http://www.candynation.com/pop-rocks-chocolate-24ct/?gclid=CNTlvsKiisACFQszaQodT2oAEg

Funnily enough, a few days ago a small package arrived in my office from Rich Quinnell containing "Sizzling Bacon Candy" that "Explodes in your mouth" ... sound familiar?

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seaEE   8/16/2014 12:51:53 AM
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@Max

Sounds familiar.  Maybe you could combine those with a Wendy's Baconator.  There is no such thing as too much of a good thing. 8>)

http://www.wendys.ca/food/Product.jsp?family=1001&product=1004

 

By the way, I was able to find a cake that is more technical (though less so than an oscilloscope):

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3890/14705525260_3e3752862b_z.jpg

The cake cutting technique could be applied to this cake as well with some success.

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Max The Magnificent   8/18/2014 10:37:37 AM
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@seaEE: The cake cutting technique could be applied to this cake as well with some success.

Stop! You're making my hungry!

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 9:40:44 AM
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@seaEE: With regards to Max's birthday, I recommend the following cake...

That is a great cake to make for a kid -- I would have loved to have that when I was younger (like last year :-)

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zeeglen   8/11/2014 10:04:15 AM
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@seaEE This cake was baked for me as a kid.

For my 12th birthday my Mom made me an oscilloscope cake.  Rectangular cake with the necessary icing decoration, single trace CRT type.  Tastiest 'scope I've ever had.

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 10:15:08 AM
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@zeeglen: For my 12th birthday my Mom made me an oscilloscope cake.

Sounds like you had a great mom!

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MeasurementBlues   8/11/2014 11:22:02 PM
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And what did your mother make for your 13th birthday?

"For my 12th birthday my Mom made me an oscilloscope cake."

A true hardware gweep.

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How can cake last so long?
_hm   8/10/2014 5:36:48 AM
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I too might have got this idea. Alas, for me and my kids, even 2.4 kg Black Forest cake from Costco never last beyond a day.

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 9:43:33 AM
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@_hm: ...even 2.4 kg Black Forest cake from Costco never last beyond a day.

Now you are making me feel hungry

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ssidman   8/14/2014 9:41:11 PM
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Maybe you need to cut the cake according to Banasch-Tarski, so you'll always have more. Every time you cut the cake, you create a new cake. You may need to start with a spherical cake, though...

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Max The Magnificent   8/15/2014 9:39:15 AM
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@ssidman: You may need to start with a spherical cake, though...

So long as it doesn't have to be four-dimensional, I think we're in with a chance :-)

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Not good for frosting lovers like me
kfield   8/11/2014 9:34:38 AM
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I see a major flaw in this cake-cutting technique, which is that it really skimps on the frosting while cutting the early pieces, thereby robbing or gipping the frosting lover out of a gastronomical pleasure. I'd trade off a few dry crumbs for more frosting, but as others point out our cakes don't usually last that long anyway!

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 9:45:33 AM
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@kfield: ...it really skimps on the frosting while cutting the early pieces, thereby robbing or gipping the frosting lover out of a gastronomical pleasure...

Ah, but there's another way to look at this, which is that the frosting-to-cake ratio gradually increases the more you eat, so the cake just keeps on getting better and better...

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kfield   8/11/2014 9:48:52 AM
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@maxmaxfield: "Ah, but there's another way to look at this, which is that the frosting-to-cake ratio gradually increases the more you eat, so the cake just keeps on getting better and better..."

That's true - and if the slices are small enough you'll wind up with almost nothing but frosting at the end. YUM!!!

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 9:56:49 AM
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@kfield: ...if the slices are small enough you'll wind up with almost nothing but frosting at the end. YUM!!!

It's nice to see that I've awakened your interest in mathematics LOL

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Another aspect
mhrackin   8/11/2014 10:10:39 AM
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If you consider the result of removing a central slice, then "reforming" the cylinder as a slightly smaller version, this would be an excellent technique for stealing a piece without anyone immediatelty noticing!  "Stealing a big slice from the cake meant for the school/church bake sale" is a cartoonist's staple for many years.  This could even be a trick that potential future STEM students could appreciate: Lesson #1 in "creative scaling." 

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Re the Belios book
mhrackin   8/11/2014 11:15:28 AM
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I just opened the link to the Amazon site where Alex's books are described.  They remind me of one of my old favorite books that I read and studied many times, starting almost 60 years ago.  It was titled "Mathematician's Delight" and it introduced me to the entire math spectrum all the way up to caluclus et al.  I still have this relatively slim paperback.  It was a gift from my uncle who was an ME student at the time and a major influence on my career choices.   I'd tell you the author but I'm in the office and the book is at home!  As I recall, he was also a Brit.  Too lazy to Google.

 

Did just Google.  It's still in priint, in 10 languages (and in  a Kindle version) since 1943!  I think my copy is the original Penguin release.  Author was W. W. Saywer, British-born, but who lived and taught math in many places around the world. He died in 2008 at age 96.

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 12:21:03 PM
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@mhrackin: ...they remind me of one of my old favorite books that I read and studied many times...

One of my friends is known as Bubblz The Clown -- in her clown persona she's taught math to kids around the world (her website says she's presented to 150,000 kids thus far...)

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Happy Birthday!
jackOfManyTrades   8/15/2014 3:44:36 AM
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An action for our customer to specify an impedance had been open a year, so my then boss made it a cake with a Smith Chart iced on to it. He gave the customer a candle and asked them to put the candle in a position to specify the impedance. The customer put the candle horrizontally in the side of the cake.

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Cake Week!
Stargzer   8/20/2014 11:01:28 AM
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It's most appropriate that we discuss cakes this week.  We have cake everytime someone in the office has a birthday.  Since no one (so far) has a birthday in August, we started the tradition of Cake Week in August, which is this week  (18-22) this year.  It's a diabetic's nightmare, but a great morale booster (probably from the sugar high). There is an unwritten policy that if anyone gets hired who has an August birthday they will have to change it to a different month. 

"Blessed are the fat, for they shall live longer when the food runs out."

 

 

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Cake Cutting
Stargzer   8/20/2014 12:25:15 PM
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Ooh!  I should have looked at the video sooner.  I didn't know those cakes had MY name on them!  And during Cake Week, no less.  Serendipity!

 

 



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