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Max The Magnificent
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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Max The Magnificent   9/11/2014 11:39:29 AM
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@Stuart: Are you saying I have to start posting 'Inventors - do not trust Max the Magnificent' ?

Of course not -- you'd be a laughing stock -- everybody trusts Max the Magnificent (that's one of the things that makes me so magnificent in the first place LOL)

Stuart2121
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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Stuart2121   9/11/2014 10:43:50 AM
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Are you saying I have to start posting 'Inventors - do not trust Max the Magnificent' ?

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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Max The Magnificent   9/11/2014 10:40:21 AM
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@Stuart: If my phone doesn't ring, I know it's them not calling to apologise - again.

LOL

Hey -- it could be me not calling -- how can you tell us apart?

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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Stuart2121   9/11/2014 8:29:29 AM
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Did you die, Jack? Sorry to hear about that.

I hope it wasn't from anything serious.

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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Stuart2121   8/27/2014 10:14:36 AM
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"Stuart,

While Intel processors are hot, obviously they are not "melting" in commercial products. Yes heat management is an issue and yes better heat sinking can be translated into better performance."

Jack, if you Google the quote in my OP, you will find it gets at least two hits in major media, & one is still online. 

I am sure you believe that your design is 3x better than anything else and perhaps it is, but odds are it is not.  

That is correct; however I have been inventing for many years, I have confidence in my designs. My record is not too shabby. You may care to Google "Local inventor wins 3 prestigious awards"

No doubt there are many many inventors in your space who believe the same thing. I have been around technology for ... well too many decades now and the number of times I have had a better mousetrap promoted to me that was not really, I have lost count.  

I have measured the performance of my hand built prototype, & checked it against the best others, as listed on the only website to provide a true figure of merit for performance (∆T, in ˙C/W) for their coolers tested. The best commercially available non exotic (no heat pipes, peltiers etc) on their website showed 0.44˚C/W; my cooler test produced a figure of 0.167˚C/W. 

No doubt Intel gets tons of unsolicited technology offers as yours appears to be.

If I truly had a ground breaking technology I would:

- Ensure my patent protection was in order

- Ensure I have a plan in place to bring it to market

- Network, work the phone, whatever it took to get a meeting with as close to the right person at Intel (if that was to be my lead customer) as possible such that my idea gets the proper attention, not just gets lumped in with the other mouse traps.

 I went to the annual conference in Boston & met many in the industry, including an Asian American gentleman who was said to be Intels' Senior Thermal Scientist. We exchanged cards and I subsequently sent to him at Intel some non specific information about my cooler, such as performance. This was with a view to working with them in one way or the other, to solve their 'melting' problem.

I found that this information was almost immediately communicated to my competitor, without reference to me. 

I would not send any material unsolicited without any prior contact and if I did, I would not have any expectation of confidentiality as I had not establshed any. 

If I received unsolicited sales material (and I receive a lot), most of the time I would delete it, and if something interesting caught my eye, I would probably ask people I know associated with similar technology if they had seen anything like it and to comment on validity.

Unsolicited, yes, but not without prior contact. Also, one does not fly to the other side of the planet on a hunch. 

Still keen to hear, Jack, how it is patently obvious to you that the problem will be the inventor.

Stuart.

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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Stuart2121   8/21/2014 10:32:27 PM
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Thanks for your reply Jack, I will address it over the weekend.

In the meantime, I am intrigued that you seem to 'know' that it must be the inventor at fault. 

I would be interested to know how you came by that insight?

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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Jack.L   8/20/2014 4:16:17 PM
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Stuart,

While Intel processors are hot, obviously they are not "melting" in commercial products. Yes heat management is an issue and yes better heat sinking can be translated into better performance.

I am sure you believe that your design is 3x better than anything else and perhaps it is, but odds are it is not. No doubt there are many many inventors in your space who believe the same thing. I have been around technology for ... well too many decades now and the number of times I have had a better mousetrap promoted to me that was not really, I have lost count. 

No doubt Intel gets tons of unsolicited technology offers as yours appears to be.

If I truly had a ground breaking technology I would:

- Ensure my patent protection was in order

- Ensure I have a plan in place to bring it to market

- Network, work the phone, whatever it took to get a meeting with as close to the right person at Intel (if that was to be my lead customer) as possible such that my idea gets the proper attention, not just gets lumped in with the other mouse traps.

I would not send any material unsolicited without any prior contact and if I did, I would not have any expectation of confidentiality as I had not establshed any.

 

If I received unsolicited sales material (and I receive a lot), most of the time I would delete it, and if something interesting caught my eye, I would probably ask people I know associated with similar technology if they had seen anything like it and to comment on validity.

 

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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Stuart2121   8/19/2014 12:37:40 PM
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"slander noun - a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

verb make false and damaging statements about someone"

Actually it would be libel, if it were - published vs spoken.

One would only need to show that what was said was true to defend a charge of slander or libel.

It may be that Intel agree with me that they can't be trusted - I have been posting the above for 4 -5 years now, with an invitation for them to provide any evidence to the contrary. If my phone doesn't ring, I know it's them not calling to apologise - again.

Tell me, Jack, what would you do if your CPUs were melting, and an inventor contacted you with an offer to solve your problem?

Jack.L
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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Jack.L   8/18/2014 7:55:10 PM
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Given what you have wrote and the lack of clarity which you wrote it, then I find what you posted almost slanderous against Intel and perhaps with good reason.

It founds like you sent them information unsolicited without any legal standing with them and yet expected some sort of legal protection? Unsolicited information is about as close to public domain as you can get so if they forwarded information, why be surprised. How would they even know who your competitor was. Perhaps they were trying to do you a favour by pointing your technology towards a company that may be interested in licensing and manufacturing it?

If you feel that patent attorneys are not worth their money due to them not giving you the answers you want, then perhaps you need to consider what your expectations are? I would much rather invite and have someone expert in the system help with write great patents versus trust myself in something I am not an expert on, but that is just me.

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Re: INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!!
Stuart2121   8/18/2014 7:47:55 PM
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I did not say Intel broke the law or an NDA.

I just said that if you are an inventor, you can't trust them. Based on my experience.

And the patent attorney industry has got its last ever dollar from me.

My reason for posting is to let inventors know that there is no level playing field in this game. Very common in industry, & Intel are a 'fine example'.

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