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resistion
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wifi traffic
resistion   8/11/2014 7:06:07 PM
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With so many devices drawing energy from same source, it's obvious there will be loading issues similar to bandwidth issues. Less energy for devices which connect later.

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Wireless Power (Unintended)
chanj0   8/11/2014 8:59:16 PM
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Idea sounds brilliant. Challenge is how much can be drawn from WiFi signal that is intended for other purpose. Would it make more sense to draw power from other means such as solar or thermo? On the other hands, for indoor use, I am not too sure energy harvesting is crucial to the future of IoT. I can see outdoor IoT definitely demands energy harvesting though.

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Re: Wireless Power (Unintended)
resistion   8/11/2014 9:09:01 PM
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I agree, mobile IoT devices would benefit from harvesting more, but since these are personal items it can be derived from the personal activity, i.e., swinging motions.

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Hey!
tb100   8/11/2014 10:05:50 PM
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" By culling energy from existing radio, TV, and wireless signals, they've developed a way to connect low-energy devices, such as sensors and wearables, to the Internet without the need for batteries or power cords."

 

Hey! I just mentioned that idea a week ago in a comment! How did they develop it so fast?

Just kidding--obviously they came up with idea before me.  This would be great for stress sensors on bridges and buildings. They are very low-power and low speed, so they need almost no power. They could slowly build up enough energy to be able to send out their data when needed.

 

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Re: Hey!
resistion   8/11/2014 10:39:08 PM
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It sounds like a good match for these immobile, inconvenient-to-maintain sensors. I'd be curious about ambient wireless power level measurements for sure.

resistion
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Re: Hey!
resistion   8/12/2014 12:45:17 AM
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It looks like it will be hard to get even 0.1-1 uW/cm2 onto a chip.

http://www.kawarthasafetechnology.org/things-to-think-about.html

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Everything old is new again
loptide   8/12/2014 12:19:30 AM
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RFID tags have worked this way for decades. The quality of "articles" here is pitiful.

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prabhakar_deosthali   8/12/2014 1:59:40 AM
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This idea of harvesting energy is very good for sensor netwroks, where the sensors are so remotely placed that distributing power to them via conventional power netwroks is expensive and batteries are not feasible because of the maintenance and recharge issues.

 

Today, our atmosphere is filled with all kind of RF signals - internet traffic on wi-FI routers, FM radio signals, TV signal traffic over various frequency bands and so on.

So a good and judicious harvesting of these signals to generate the necessary power of sensors that are in open atmosphere and away from the power distributions networks will be defintely beneficial.

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This was not a brand new idea?
SSssaggxx   8/12/2014 5:34:08 AM
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Check this 3 years old thread,

http://www.gizmag.com/scavenging-ambient-electromagnetic-energy/19163/

 

"Scavenging experiments utilizing TV bands have already yielded power amounting to hundreds of microwatts, and multi-band systems are expected to generate one milliwatt or more. That amount of power is enough to operate many small electronic devices, including a variety of sensors and microprocessors."

 

There are also some interesting projects in Kickstarter, such as iFind/Wetag, though I don't understand their tricks clearly.

https://www.wetaginc.com/

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good time for reviewing antenna basics
resistion   8/12/2014 9:21:22 AM
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It's a good time to refresh the absorption and wavelengths of the different bands, at least for better appreciation of the old technology...

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Re: good time for reviewing antenna basics
elctrnx_lyf   8/12/2014 3:24:19 PM
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Definitely a technology of future and I believe once evolved this can serve many needs in sensor world.

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Inviting more trouble?
Sanjib.A   8/12/2014 11:17:34 PM
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"According to the Sydney Morning Herald, a security vulnerability was recently found in LIFX lightbulbs: They can reportedly expose your home's WiFi password."


http://www.informationweek.com/big-data/big-data-analytics/internet-of-things-8-pioneering-ideas/d/d-id/1297334?image_number=5

...Are we not inviting more trouble while trying to solve one problem? At least we did not have security threats from a simple light bulb. Now we have that threat with an "intelligent light bulb"...similarly, in order to get rid of the batteries we are going to depend on WiFi to power-up the smart sensors, thus making those vulnerable to threats at the same time. If someone breaks into the WiFi and makes it disabled, all those sensors dependent on the same would be crippled...possible?

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Re: Inviting more trouble?
Sheetal.Pandey   8/13/2014 2:46:27 AM
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Yes batteries would be an issue and how many batteries one has to use for a device. I think if the devices can be charged over the air or via internet it would be great.

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Parasitizing Power from Other Devices
DrQuine   8/17/2014 5:56:34 PM
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It still seems to me that you can't get something for nothing. As more and more devices start parasitizing power from WiFi or other devices, that power will not be available for the intended purposes. At some point I'd predict that the reduction in range and coverage associated with these parasitic loads will become observable and annoying.



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