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Re: For Chinese market only?
junko.yoshida   8/26/2014 7:48:44 AM
@sanjib, Ni was quoted in the Chinese wire service news story that his project intention to compete against Google, Apple and Microsoft.

But considering a huge ecosystem already built in support of Android, iOS and Windows, I would say their initial intention is, first, target the home market (China.)

China has a history of developing its own, home-grown standards and technologies a) in hopes of avoiding paying roylaties; b) in the name of nurturing the home grown industry (building an ecosystem of its own); and c)in the name of security.

The third one is sort of new here and it might make sense. But the first two factors are definitely driving factors for this, for sure.

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India developing OS too ?
prabhakar_deosthali   8/26/2014 4:05:23 AM
If a nation is developing an OS for the pure purpose of security, then the purpose is understood.

But you need big teams to develop, maintain and upgarde an OS and a consistent leadership for such a project.


The OS also has to be based upon a processor platform and the evolution of both go hand in hand.

It is not clear whether the Indian govt is alo planning its own processor family



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Did you know that India was too was/is on the OS trip?
stippu   8/26/2014 3:47:34 AM
Did you  know that you India too is working on its OS for more than five years or so? Defence Research and Development Organization ( DRDO) was/is to develop its own operating system (to be developed which will initially be used for defense applications (and later for commercial).


Long before that, there was news that CDAC ( Center for Development of Advanced Computing) has developed OS  called the BOSS ( Bharat Operating System Solutions.

But nothing concrete has come up as of now.

The government was to use this OS for its Akash tablet ( the $60 Android-based tablet with a 7-inch screen) which was to be distributed at a lower price to government schools.

 But the Akash tablet ( Akash means sky in Hindi) has been developed and is being used but the pure Indian OS has yet to put in an appearance – either in the defense of the commercial space.

 Let's see how the Chinese OS takes off.. but knowing how the Indian and Chinese governments, there are chances that the Chinese OS might just do the trick.



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It is not a dream
collin0   8/26/2014 12:22:59 AM
From the title, we obviously could know the view of author.

Frist of all, it is ture that China talk about of having its own operating system for a long time without the perfect result. Many people think it is only a dream, never realize it.


Howerver, this time the situation is quite different. Why? Please consider the China's political environment first. The new government is quite differnt from its former.


OS is a quite big project. If the government could organize it as the leader just like China's aeronautical and space career. We have strong confidence that China has its own OS is not a dream.

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Re: Does the OS Really Matter Anymore?
jdesbonnet   8/25/2014 10:49:34 PM
@BobsView: I think there is more to it than just regular users. I think we saw over the last 12 months that our software, hardware and 'cloud' services are not nearly as secure as many of us thought.  The Chinese government would be right to distrust software (especially close source binary) that comes from a vendor that can be directly manipulated be a foreign government (of course this also applies the other way around).  So from a strategic pov, it makes sense for their government and industry to use software they know don't have back doors (except the ones they put in themselves :-) )

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Re: For Chinese market only?
Sanjib.A   8/25/2014 10:28:00 PM

@Rick: Thanks for the information on the China's processor project. I see that I lost track of the stories earlier and could find some of those on EEtimes. I am amazed to see that the processor is already in commercial use...mostly used by Chinese government. I understand that it might be difficult to get more technical/performance information about the same further.

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Red Flag Linux
y_sasaki   8/25/2014 6:47:23 PM
Does anybody rememver so-called Red Flag Linux? Wikipedia says the company closed early in 2014.


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Re: For Chinese market only?
rick merritt   8/25/2014 5:56:19 PM
@Sanjib: The chip designed by the China national CPU project is known as Godson. If you search for that you will find several EE Timnes stories about several generaitons of the design that have reportedly been used in some desktop PCs and are now being aimed at servers.

It's hard to get information on what real traction the chip has had. But a university researcher leading the project has presented details of the chips at Hot Chips and elsewhere.

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This is hilarious
anon7632755   8/25/2014 3:56:30 PM
"China has more than a dozen mobile OS developers with no independent intellectual property rights because their research is based on Android."

As if the Chinese give a fuck about intellectual property rights.

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For Chinese market only?
Sanjib.A   8/25/2014 2:05:53 PM
@ Junko: "Ni's bravado, calling for an environment that can help Chinese "compete with Google, Apple and Microsoft," is impressive..."

Is this operating system targeted for competing with others in the Chinese market alone or is there an intension of competing with the major players in the global market too?

There was a similar effort being made to come up with processor architecture by...I believe Chinese is that progressing? Does the OS development effort has any link to this and vice versa?


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