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rick merritt
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Loyal users?
rick merritt   8/25/2014 11:56:24 AM
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It will be interesting to see how this comes to market (an open source offering with comercial support companies?) and what it looks and feels like.

We've been hearing reports about tis for some time but I have yet to hear from anyone who has had a hands on with any real code.

 

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Presumably a Linux distro
jdesbonnet   8/25/2014 12:02:46 PM
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I assume they're going for a Linux or FreeBSD distro (or something based on one of those free kernels). It would be crazy to start from scratch.

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Does the OS Really Matter Anymore?
BobsView   8/25/2014 1:36:55 PM
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RE:  ... it's far from clear how quickly and seriously the Chinese OS will attract local Chinese technology companies whose business is supplying products not only to domestic consumers but to the global marketplace.

I really believe the average FaceBook user could care less whose operating system is inside as long as it works, has no bugs, and is transparent, that is, doesn't require a lot of fiddling to get it to work.

Most Smartphone users don't even want to know there is such thing as an Operating System inside.  They just want to send messages and photos with the least hassle.

I remember reading an aricle about computers back in the early eighties and someone with a lot of insight predicted that in the future, computers would be so far embedded into the device, it would be invisible to the user.  That time has come.  

It's like the computer in your car, or washing machine, or oven, or whatever. You just want it to work and not give you a lot of hassle.

I believe in the future, the OS will no longer be even mentioned.  The device will be judged by the overall user experience, not by the operating system.  No one will care what makes their appliance work.  As long as it works!

 

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Re: Presumably a Linux distro
CC VanDorne   8/25/2014 1:43:16 PM
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"It would be crazy to start from scratch."



@jdesbonnet - I'd say it depends on what their real intentions are.  (A question that must be asked, after all. We are still talking about communitst, no?) Anyway, if they are serious, starting over is exactly what they should do.  I'd even go so far as to include reviewing the hardware since all the O/Ss they sight as competition are based on either Von Neuman or RISC architectures.

If not serious, then yeah, make it warmed over Linux and rattle that sabre.

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For Chinese market only?
Sanjib.A   8/25/2014 2:05:53 PM
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@ Junko: "Ni's bravado, calling for an environment that can help Chinese "compete with Google, Apple and Microsoft," is impressive..."

Is this operating system targeted for competing with others in the Chinese market alone or is there an intension of competing with the major players in the global market too?

There was a similar effort being made to come up with processor architecture by...I believe Chinese government...how is that progressing? Does the OS development effort has any link to this and vice versa?

 

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This is hilarious
anon7632755   8/25/2014 3:56:30 PM
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"China has more than a dozen mobile OS developers with no independent intellectual property rights because their research is based on Android."

As if the Chinese give a fuck about intellectual property rights.

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Re: For Chinese market only?
rick merritt   8/25/2014 5:56:19 PM
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@Sanjib: The chip designed by the China national CPU project is known as Godson. If you search for that you will find several EE Timnes stories about several generaitons of the design that have reportedly been used in some desktop PCs and are now being aimed at servers.

It's hard to get information on what real traction the chip has had. But a university researcher leading the project has presented details of the chips at Hot Chips and elsewhere.

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Red Flag Linux
y_sasaki   8/25/2014 6:47:23 PM
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Does anybody rememver so-called Red Flag Linux? Wikipedia says the company closed early in 2014.

 

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Re: For Chinese market only?
Sanjib.A   8/25/2014 10:28:00 PM
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@Rick: Thanks for the information on the China's processor project. I see that I lost track of the stories earlier and could find some of those on EEtimes. I am amazed to see that the processor is already in commercial use...mostly used by Chinese government. I understand that it might be difficult to get more technical/performance information about the same further.

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Re: Does the OS Really Matter Anymore?
jdesbonnet   8/25/2014 10:49:34 PM
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@BobsView: I think there is more to it than just regular users. I think we saw over the last 12 months that our software, hardware and 'cloud' services are not nearly as secure as many of us thought.  The Chinese government would be right to distrust software (especially close source binary) that comes from a vendor that can be directly manipulated be a foreign government (of course this also applies the other way around).  So from a strategic pov, it makes sense for their government and industry to use software they know don't have back doors (except the ones they put in themselves :-) )

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