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$120 Wintel PCs
rick merritt   9/4/2014 12:45:44 AM
Without the $30+ Windows tax and with a Atom based-x86 we are really seeing some inexpensive systems. I'd love to see some performance specs on how they far against Android/ARM tabs.

At this stage, M'soft like Google sees more value in reselling eyeballs on Bing than the upfront $30+ royalty, though it must miss the glory days of its once high monopoly pricing.

As for Intel, can it make a living selling these if they replace notebooks and desktops?

As for Wintel tabs, is it too late? Is this an Android/ARM market?

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Re: $120 Wintel PCs
Kinnar   9/4/2014 6:44:46 AM
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The advantage of Windows Tablet is, its ability to run all the windows based applications on the tablet. So for single device owner the tablet itself will function as a laptop like functionality. That way it serves dual purpose.

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Re: $120 Wintel PCs
TonyTib   9/4/2014 1:23:20 PM
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8" Win8 Atom-based tablets have been pretty cheap for a while (cheaper than an iPad mini).

I've seen my system (Asus T100TA, 32G) for $200-$250 refurb (10", keyboard, Baytrail).  I'd say it's got better performance and compatibility (Flash) than a typical ARM tablet, but that's based on feel, not any hard numbers.

On issue with the really sweet Windows 8.1 tablets (such as the Surface Pro 3 and Dell Venue 11 Pro) is the resolution is too high if you want to run legacy applications (most won't scale to 1920x1080 or 2140x1440, so you'd need a magnifying glass to read the text) - that's one reason I went with the T100TA with its 1366x768 resolution.

I backed the ConsoleOS Kickstarter project, which is Android optimized for x86; it should run out of the box on the T100TA, and I'm curious to see how it will do.  Their goal is to have rapid switching between Anroid and Windows, and a good game environment.  The result could be pretty neat: quickly switch between Android, with all its apps, and Windows for productivity and all its software.

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Re: $120 Wintel PCs
Patrikb   9/9/2014 9:23:37 AM
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This might be cannibilizing the higher end part of the Wintel market some, but I think it's on the margin. It's not really replacement for a more powerful PC like device. For Intel I think this is more of an incremental market like the early Atom netbook days and for Microsoft I think they can tap into a possible stream of Office 365 licensefees, and possibly some traction for Bing. Does it threaten Android in tablets? Not really, at least not for the short term,  but I think it's going to create a foothold in a new segment, where the old Wintel couple could perhaps create some lockin.

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Re: $120 Wintel PCs
Kinnar   9/10/2014 2:47:13 AM
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Yes, it is quite  right @PatrikB but in that case Microsoft has a very great opportunity not to loose business from any single windows lover. If they can provide all possible facilities like an android does. 

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Re: $120 Wintel PCs
Patrikb   9/10/2014 3:56:40 AM
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@Kinnar. I think the Wintel devices for sure can provide all of the features of Android tablets except for the fact that they lack the range of apps. On the other hand MS can offer the business users other applications targeting productivity and professional use. I'd be surprised if they didn't try to integrate Skype further as well for the long term. So Android for consumers and infotainment and Windows for business might be a positioning that could at least get MS a reasonable foothold in tablets. I'd be less optimistic regarding MS chances of making it smartphones.

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Microsoft Policy
Kinnar   9/4/2014 6:49:46 AM
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Microsoft's policy of providing free or low cost software solution this way will be affecting the sale of its own product "Surface" tablets. Microsoft will have to think in the direction of reducing the price of "Surface" tablets. If you compare the price of "Surface" tablets with the tablets here in discussions in the article then it shows a huge difference.

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Re: Microsoft Policy
bempey   9/9/2014 5:31:20 PM
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Agreed, but I don't think they compete. Folks buying a Surface tablet with a MS badge on it won't look at cheaper options.  Its like a Toyota Matrix vs. Pontiac Vibe ... $5k (after discounts) for a Toyota badge on the same product. Or an Audi A3 vs. a VW Golf.   Or a i-anything compared to a hundred products that are better, faster, have more features, and cost 1/2 the price, but don't have an Apple logo on them. 
MS fans may be dwindling in numbers, but they're just as rabid as the hoards of iTards out there. 

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Re: Microsoft Policy
Kinnar   9/11/2014 3:20:09 AM
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All the above brand you listed does not have conflicting policies where in the top brand is selling their products and variants at two different prices. It is true that the brand had got it value but when the brand will sale their products at two different rates they where entering into some different segment.

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USB ports?
bempey   9/9/2014 5:33:39 PM
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Did I miss a comparison of USB ports on these devices? Everything I have connects by USB. Do they all have USB-A connectors? Are they USB-2 or USB-3 ???

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Re: USB ports?
Kinnar   9/11/2014 3:16:18 AM
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Roughly all the Windows Tablets will be having a usb port on them, this is the way windows based tablets can be used as a personal computer as and when required. USB Port on them will allow you to use almost all the usb based hardware with windows tablets. Great Feature for Windows OS.



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