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alex_m1   12/1/2014 1:18:07 PM
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@Krisi, maybe office online will work for you ? it's by MS and it's supposed to be comaptible. And google is also working on compatibility, maybe it's reasonably close.

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krisi   12/1/2014 12:23:33 PM
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but can you edit my ppt slides using Chrome OS? probably not...so this is non-starter for me

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alex_m1   11/30/2014 6:17:52 PM
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Duane, Do you need windows for mostly work related stuff ?

And yes, currently chrome is too limited, but chrome + android could be much more, and could probably fulfill everything many consumers will want.

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Duane Benson   11/30/2014 4:17:37 PM
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Re: "Krisi, one reason many consumers will prefer something like chrome os..."

I'm a fan of the Chrome OS; just not for a primary computer. It could never replace my main workstation, but for a lot of browsing and writing that I do, the Chromebook is so much more convenient. It boots in a few seconds. I can have multiple accounts. It's secure and simple.

I've had mine for a year now and would be hard pressed to give it up. The key is to understand what its capabilities are and use it for what it's good at.

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alex_m1   11/30/2014 1:05:32 PM
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>just give me something that reliably works

Krisi, one reason many consumers will prefer something like chrome os over windows is the zero maintence approach - because there are no viruses due to isolation - an approach that worked great in some version of linux with only 1 security bug detected over a few years.

Now with Google adding android app support to chrome os, it could be that we'll see a very strong contender for win at the consumer market: cheaper device, very good software and in some case surpassing windows for example for casual games, greater integration with tablets/phones and more reliability(no viruses/maintenece ,and maybe lower power + no hard disk) .

 

 

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krisi   11/30/2014 11:27:46 AM
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I agreed from my perspective thee is no reason to move away from x86 ever...I would happily pay $1000 for any PC than an do what my old PC from 2002 did so well...I don't need any innovations, just give me something that reliably works

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selinz   11/29/2014 11:19:24 AM
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After a layoff of >5 years, I purchased several computers for the family. My wife got laptop/tablet transformer that has an Atom processor. But it inlucded office, a 500gb drive, win 8.1, 2gb of memory, and runs all of the x86 apps! For only $350. She has an all day class and it still has plenty of charge at end of the day. Absolutely amazing, if you ask me. My purchase was a desktop with a high end I7 chip. The integrated graphics runs solidworks  like a champ and scored pretty well on the performance test.

Intel's biggest advantage is its x86 legacy. They should roll that into smartphones.

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krisi   11/24/2014 2:14:09 PM
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I actually need a new computer so will check Sprout this weekend...thank you for the suggestion!

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docdivakar   11/24/2014 2:11:52 PM
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@Kris: I am not that impressed with MSoft's Surface. On the surface (pun intended!), it looks impressive but when you start interacting with it, I was less inclined to buy one. They just don't get it when it comes to desiging user interfaces that appeal to techies. I am not at all impressed with its desktop mode operation.

On the otherhand, if you get a chance, checkout HP's new Sprout computer, it is fantastic. I had a chance to play with it last Friday evening at HackerDojo.

MP Divakar

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krisi   11/24/2014 1:43:12 PM
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Hi @docdivakar...I think we are agreeing in principle...although the PC to tablet transition is less than seemless from what Microsoft and others would like you to belive...fundamentally you can't squizze the same performance into smaller physical footprint, something has to give, usually reliability...have you tried using Surface?...this is just one example: "Same problem. Mine has frozen 8 times since I bought it. I have spent 7.5 hours on the phone with support. No resolution.|"

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