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Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 3:57 AM
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 3:57 AM
in response to: jack_m
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One item is missed. The cost of US labor is too high to compete..and all the debts (personal, federal etc) are killing the economy. There never be any real positive change in the economy until US dollar devalues several times. Illness has gone too far to treat it only by creation of new bubbles, further debt accumulation and expenditures cuts.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 10:16 AM
in response to: jack_m
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The factory laborers don't make that much considering how much management makes. Keep the unions out, cut management pay, and reward those closest to the manufactured product. The grunt labor is what is making the company money! Sure, the stuffed shirts make decisions, but are thier decisions worth millions per year?
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 12:51 PM
in response to: jack_m
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Shockingly deceptive to offer the 6 "cures" that would kill the patient. It boggles the mind that anyone could list the disasters the economy is facing, and then suggest that we do 6 things to destroy it beyond repair. Reduce interest on bank deposits?? So then no bank desposits, no money to lend, and a stagnant economy. Implement governement take over of the medical/insurance industry?? After 6 decades of communist/socialist failures and destruction of life around the world you want to follow that failed example? Barak Hussein Obama should be impeached for treason, and this kind of attack on free enterprise and our republican form of governement should be punished with imprisonment.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 1:42 PM
in response to: jack_m
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It is amazing that the cures (except for #6) look like they are taken straight from the Democratic party's talking points list. I do not know how much the U.S. Chamber of Commerce would agree with these cures but I think they would have a better view of what business needs to bring back those high-paying manufacturing jobs that will never return.
I never understood how corporate taxes fit with the principle of, "no taxation without representation". If you can tax companies then shouldn't these same companies (as an entity, in addition to the individuals themselves who pay income taxes) be able to vote for local, state, and federal representatives? This question makes me think.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 1:54 PM
in response to: jack_m
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I agree with Icarus1 and Economy Expert Manager.
Cure 1: Where in his descriptions of the economic problems that we face did he identify health care as one of them? But, he sure identified the federal deficit blow-out! Socialized medicine will only increase the federal financial mess.
Cure 2: How exactly are exported $'s to be reclaimed? If people won't bring them back voluntarily because we have a lousy investment environment, does he propose the use of force?
Cure 3: How is renewable energy development to be induced? By force? That should attract more productive people!
Cure 4: How can you reduce deposit interest rates below a fraction of 1%? Steal money from each account once a month?
Cure 5: There's no connection between visa expansion and anything.
Cure 6: Tax reform. Instead of allowing people to keep more of what they produce, he wants the government to bribe people to do specific things via the tax code.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 2:38 PM
in response to: jack_m
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Wow! Great article until page 2. What happened, did you run out of time to finish it? I agree with several of the comments above - The list of cures have nothing to do with with the illness, and will further harm the patient.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 3:37 PM
in response to: jack_m
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Cure 3 - How should renewable energy development be induced? By subsidizing installation at the domestic level and specifying US manufactured items. Get some real economy of scale going for PV etc.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 22, 2009 9:20 PM
in response to: jack_m
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Workers in USA and Europe should pressurize their governments to fight China's manipulation of its currency. This is the only cure. And it can only happen when workers get involved.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 23, 2009 1:19 AM
in response to: jack_m
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The most important CURE: Cut the huge defence spending! America can't afford more wars!
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 23, 2009 11:06 AM
in response to: jack_m
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Defense spending can not compare to the total expenditures by the federal government in social entitlements. At least some (although less and less recently) of the money that goes into defense spending is used for R&D and subsidizing domestic technology companies. Also, providing for the common defense (as opposed to the more vague, "...promote the general welfare...") is one of the tasks the federal government is explicitly required to do by the constitution.
In contrast, social entitlements (as we learned with the, "Great Society", in 1965) only serves to demoralize otherwise potentially productive citizens (not to mention are also prone to fraud) and divert large quantities of capital from productive uses (i.e. developing new technologies, building infrastructure, creating jobs, etc.).
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 23, 2009 11:59 AM
in response to: jack_m
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Step 6. Tax reform. That's the last thing we need. If ever there was a definition of 'Forest for the Trees' then this is it. With over 16,000+ changes to the existing tax code in just the last 25 or so years, it's easy to see that taxation is broken too. Better to switch to FairTax (H.R. 25) so that US companies have a financial reason to keep US citizens employed, eliminates corporate and payroll taxes thus reducing the labor cost component, and put control of US affairs back to the people; a government of the People, by the People and for the People.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 24, 2009 12:43 PM
in response to: jack_m
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By pursuing a weak-currency policy, China is siphoning some of that inadequate demand away from other nations, which is hurting growth almost everywhere. - Paul Krugman
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/opinion/23krugman.html?_r=1
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 26, 2009 5:14 PM
in response to: jack_m
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Incredible, this sounds like it came from the Obama press manual. The last thing we need is more debt from a health care debacle. What we really need is a new industry based on green materials and technologies like green cars and houses. This would jump start manufacturing and help to eliminate the toxic pollutants we are burning everyday in record quantities.
We also need to start buying American made products while their still is an America.
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Re: Comments for: "15 sobering predictions, cures for economy "
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Oct 26, 2009 5:43 PM
in response to: jack_m
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Well, how about incentives for bringing some production back to USA from Asia? At least for the lower volume, higher value, quicker turn stuff.
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