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JohnSmith

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Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 12:11 PM
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JohnSmith

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 12:11 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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Do you work for Apple or are you just an Idiot?
dirk.bruere

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 1:59 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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I'm sticking with XP.
What can Windows 7 (or 8) do for me that XP cannot. And which I would actually want?
Bilge

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 2:03 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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Number one on my wish list is an OS that works with my existing software and hardware. Windows 7 does not. Maybe after Service Pack 2 I will give it another try.
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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 2:06 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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I would like to see a comittment from Microsoft to update its operating systems and application software continually until security is achieved. This, of course, would contrast with the shameful de facto practice of updating the software until it wishes to force the owner of the software to repurchase.
sam512bb

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 2:18 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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Microsoft and other big players need to listen and understand their customer's needs. Users at all levels need to have a clear productivity reason (i.e. improvement) to encourage (not force) an upgrade to a newer O/S or hardware... after all there can be a significant cost to this upgrade (i.e. possible new hardware, training, etc). Sadly a number of products released these days are done for technology sake (i.e. whiz bang look) as opposed to productivity sake...
Cheers,
Sam
Abarafi

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 2:26 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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I live in an XP and Vista world. At home, I have two older computers that both run XP. At work, I have a tiny Sony Vaio laptop that came with Vista Business installed. It takes forever to reboot, so I do it as seldom as possible. If Windows 7 is faster and more efficient, I'm a happy camper. I don't care about support for touch screens or any of that stuff.
Stromanator

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 2:39 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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Microsoft owes it to Vista owners to allow a free or very low cost upgrade path. Vista was a major failure for most applications and now consumers are having to pay the price of upgrading (to 7) to get the performance and features that were promised in Vista.
sam512bb

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 2:58 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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As an update to my earlier comments... After going to the Microsoft site and seeing their top 10 reasons for upgrading to Windows 7... most of which are for the home user. A few like faster searching, etc are ok for the business user but in reality how much productivity increase will there really be for a business user? I would say very little considering the upgrade and re-trainment costs needed...
JamesAndersonMe...

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 4:11 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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One thing the author didn't mention was the "every-other-one" phenomenon. Basically, software producers, including OS providers, will put out a "features release" and then a "solid release" that fixes the bugs of the previous one, while introducing a small, but carefully selected suite of new features that is just large enough to justify a healthy version number bump and upgrade campaign. XP stabilized the previous version of Windows. Windows 7 stabilizes Vista, and so forth. If you want new, whiz-bang features AND stability, too, you will need to wait for SP2 of Windows EIGHT at the earliest -- perhaps SP1 of windows NINE. What you have now is the "good" version of Vista. Microsoft isn't doing anything that it and hundreds of other manufacturers and software houses haven't already been doing for a couple of decades. They're just following the natural developmental progression. To complain because we are in the "solid system" phase of that cycle is to have unforgiving and even unrealistic expectations, I think. And believe me, I am no defender of Microsoft. This is just how software -- especially SYSTEM software -- is done. Apple, in particular, has followed this pattern for years. The open source products tend to evolve when they have critical mass, but even some of the larger and more popular of them have settled into a pattern of "features release" followed by "stability release."

By all means, though, let's talk about features we would like to see in the next "exciting" release of Windows.
Captain Crunch

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 4:18 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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If indeed they really did produce a "W2k-reliable" super legacy-compatible, straightforward, no-nonsense operating system then they are finally on the right course. This is and always has been Microsft's only real role in the industry - compatibility. Fruitcakes that need a tingle from their operating systems and those at MS that tried to win their hearts caused $Billions in problems worldwide. If there were any real alternatives, MS would be toast by now.
Rick Merritt

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 4:56 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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Support for ARM would be nice if they want to play a full role in the evolution of netbooks.
Pryderi

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Microsoft did what it needed to do this time
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 6:52 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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Given the general dissatisfaction with Vista and the aging XP code base, Microsoft did what it needed to do for now: deliver a more modern OS that is also reliable, more secure than XP, and less of a resource hog than Vista. (The Vista service pack and patches already did a lot of this but by the time they were available the brand was already fatally damaged.) It would be nice to see some more substantial OS innovation from Redmond but this was not the time for it; they needed to repair the Windows brand first.
stixoffire

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 24, 2009 12:35 PM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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Microsoft has never been an innovator - they have always been a grabber of others technology and marketing it as if they developed the idea. Good Marketing. Vista was and still is horrible. Paying for a BAD product - is REASON to complain. I expect to get what I pay for regardless of JamesAndersonMerritt statements of every other one - I really do not give a hoot how hard it is to do something or what path of progression or how you need to do it; if you ask me to purchase something you have manufactured - I expect to get what I payed for and anything less than that is TRASH and a waste of MY time and MY money, and I have a RIGHT to complain about it and to demand what I payed for!! The real winners in Business are those who aren't telling me about the difficulties of their business problems but those who are providing the products and services that they have promised whether through advertising or other means!! I am sick of BAD service and BAD products, take your excuses elsewhere. If you advertise a car that is reliable and fun to drive - IT BETTER BE, and if it is NOT - I do not want to hear the engineering was difficult, the cash flow for R and D was not there or any other comment about your problems to deliver what you said you were going to deliver!! I don't care if the CHEF put the sugar in the salt container because you have no system in place to make sure that does not happen. Is that Clear Enough.
Jonathan.Kang

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Re: Comments for: "Opinion: M'soft must do better with Windows 8"
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 8:39 AM   in response to: JohnSmith in response to: JohnSmith
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There really were no compelling features to move me to Win7. I didn't want to go to Vista because of compatibility issues and the fact that I like XP. Unfortunately, I'm reaching the upper bound of addressable memory and XP64 is....buggy.

So it would seem Win7 is the upgrade path I can't avoid now. Hopefully, it'll be more like XP and less like Vista.

As for features, pipe-dream list:
1. Relational file system, ZFS or MS's own.
2. Please please please allow more control over random services that "optimize" while I'm idle.
3. An actual command line interface; A useful one.
4. Better support for spanning multiple drives. To this day, I still can't move my temp applications data folder from my C drive (SSD, I'd like to reduce writes to it) to another location without applications breaking for some odd reason.

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