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Brexit and European Auto Manufacturing

Alix Paultre
8/4/2017 03:21 PM EDT

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Smartalix   8/11/2017 2:23:22 PM
You make good points, but the future of the electric car is an open book. We don't know who will be the major players a decade from now, much less when ICE cars start getting legislated off of the road in the 30's and 40's. 

The core technologies used in electric cars are currently undergoing revolution in every facet, from better power semiconductor materials, to better topologies, to better software, to small significant things like wireless subsystem communication that can remove huge amounts of wiring. These things aren't even remotely mature, imagine the impact on the market in a few product cycles with double the range, half the weight (contributing to the range), and with a large enough profit margin to put proper amenities in it. (We know the Germans will.)

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realjjj   8/4/2017 4:50:18 PM

Herbert Diess of VW according to Reuters:

"Around half of Tesla's engineers are software experts, while at VW's core brand it is a much lower proportion, Diess said. Tesla has good electric motors, a fast charging network, autonomous driving technology, internet connectivity, and a new approach toward vehicle distribution.

"This shows that we need to significantly improve. We can do this. We measure ourselves against Tesla quite deliberately. Our goal: Using our abilities not just to catch up, but even to overtake," Diess, who drives an electric VW Golf, said."


Not that Tesla doesn't have weaknesses. Charging as much as they do for Autopilot when every car has the hardware and most of it is also used by already enabled  features, is big pharma mentality. Democratizing Autopilot would have financial, marketing and data collection upsides.

Then their interior is weak and to make it worse, they can't cut costs in areas like performance, range and safety so they end up cutting comfort and convenience and that's mostly the interior. Autonomy will require a shift to comfort and convenience, large cabin, the back seats gain in importance and they need to be ready for that.

Tesla might also be high on Model 3. They gave up on trying to make Model Y revolutionary , they don't seem to care much about even faster charging, dismissing solar on cars without properly considering it and if they relax too much, they become just another car maker.

Other than that VW is right, Tesla is doing a lot of good things.


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