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Goodbye, Digital Camera; It Was Fun, But We’re Done

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Kiers
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Wait till 5G
Kiers   11/26/2017 4:32:30 PM
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when 5G comes along full bore, with it's NATIVE mm wave frequencies, will we see similar declines in hand held security wands, metal detectors, and perhaps.....see through x-ray goggles !  whooopeeee!

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When only a dedicated camera will do
Measurement.Blues   11/7/2017 3:32:13 PM
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There's one instance where digital cameras rule over phones: summer camp. Many camps forbid campers to have phones but do allow cameras. If campers want camp photos, they need a dedicated camera.  

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Re: Digital cameras won't die, just exist in the professional area
smsmstar80   11/2/2017 3:40:33 AM
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good

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Re: Kodak invented it and Borland put it in the phone
perl_geek   11/1/2017 6:18:32 PM
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By "Borland" I think you must be talking about Phillippe Kahn; IIRC there never was a real Mr, Borland, but Kahn was the public face of the firm. It's a shame the firm didn't succeed the way Microsoft did. Their programming tools were excellent, especially by micro-computer standrds. The documentation, in particular, for the C++ compiler was superb, a model still to emulate. A lot of the examples in the book not only explained the functions very well, they were individually useful.  

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Re: Kodak invented it and Borland put it in the phone
GregB110   11/1/2017 4:46:21 PM
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Thanks tb100, very interesting article on Kodak and Mr. Sasson.

The info on Borland is also interesting.  I used several of Borlands products.

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Kodak invented it and Borland put it in the phone
tb100   11/1/2017 4:27:09 PM
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Many people don't realize that Kodak invented the digital camera: https://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/kodaks-first-digital-moment.

 

And Borland (remember Turbo Pascal?) invented the camera phone. When he wanted to share pictures of his new baby to his workmates, he thought, "why can't I just send it from my phone?" and had his engineers make up a prototype, that worked. The thing is, he tried to sell it to US companies, and they weren't interested. He ended up selling it to Japanese companies. It is only after it caught on in Japan that US companies (and eventually the iPhone) put a camera in their phones.

 

I don't think it is just lack of foresight--it is hard to change a company of thousands, all organized for a particular business plan, to completely change their market. It is like trying to have a diesel train turn on a dime.   

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GPS's
GregB110   11/1/2017 11:38:12 AM
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GPS on phones is a far cry from a real dedicated GPS.  I'll even go as far as state that GPS on phones is garbage.

When I say dedicated GPS, I'm talking about purchasing a GPS from a major manufacturer like Garmin etc.

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Re: Kodak and digital
Evariste   10/29/2017 4:04:10 PM
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Even if Kodak knew that digital was the future, and many there probably did, and they had seized on making digital cameras, it was still a shrinking business.  There was more money in film than there currently is in digital cameras.  Camera companies like GoPro are fighting a losing battle; the cameras get better and cheaper. As for SLRs, I agree that the quality of an SLR is better than a phone, but an iPhone is still really good.  Look at most snapshots from the 80s.   Film was either really slow or fast and grainy.  You needed a flash for any lower-light conditions, and flash ruined everything.  You rarely need a flash with an iPhone.  Since the film was slow, the shutter speed was too long and everything was blurred. There was no white-balancing.  The exposure was usually off.  (The iPhone will take 3 pictures in succession to capture a large dynamic range, which is something that was only possible with great difficulty in the darkroom in the 80s.)  In short, with no skill, you can easily take a better picture with an iPhone than all but the best photographers of 1985 with their best equipment and darkroom skills.

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Re: Kodak and Rochester
Evariste   10/29/2017 3:43:57 PM
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I work for a company in Rochester and go out there from time to time.  It's not a bad place, though it's not what it used to be.  Kodak had 65K employees there; now they have about 2K.  People could get a good job there right out of high school.  Now the blue-collar options are not as good.  On the plus side, if you are an engineer there, the housing prices are pretty nice.

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Plus ca change......
David Ashton   10/27/2017 8:18:23 PM
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Nothing has really changed Point and shoot camera -----> Smartphone Fancy film SLR & Lenses-----> DSLR What's changed is that it's so much easier to send/show the photos, and the almost limitless capacity of digital cameras, so easy to take lots of pics and chuck out the duds.

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