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‘Europe First’ Emerges as Theme of Tech Reboot

6/29/2017 05:31 PM EDT
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junko.yoshida
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Re: slogan sounds familiar
junko.yoshida   7/3/2017 10:35:43 AM
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@resistion, it does.I agree. But parhaps, it's the sign of times we are living in right now. As one of my friends -- who is a social scientist -- pointed out to me over this past weekend, technology and politics have been always been intertwined and this is a manifestation of that. Maybe there isn't much to be surprised about.

But that said, this was the first time when I heard Europeans making such an overt comment about "economic and strategy sovereignty" and how they want to retool their own microelectronics industry and R&D activities to compete with the rest of the world.

But if you are looking for funding, what other better ways are out there than pushing the political hot button issues -- "technology" -- to get what you want?

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slogan sounds familiar
resistion   7/2/2017 8:10:53 AM
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The Europe First slogan sounds like Trump backlash.

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Re: where IoT matters
realjjj   6/30/2017 6:12:02 AM
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Maybe i'm too focused on the long term and this project is something else?

Anyway, depends how you define IoT. I wouldn't include wearables or robots as IoT. So in meeting those needs it would be at the periphery and certainly not the core technology. Sensors are important in pretty much every future device, can't argue with that. I am also factoring in the social impact, not just revenue when saying that IoT feels meaningless. One would assume that the social impact matters to the EU.

When i mention food i'm not thinking about monitoring crops, i'm thinking about "manufacturing food" not growing it on land - Star Trek Replicator kind of thing end game. The concept of a self sustained home is interesting too. Harvesting resources to produce food and objects is maybe the hardest part but aiming for that is not a bad idea.

Healthcare long term becomes about immortality and all the different ways to achieve it while also being related to enhanced humans. We also need to figure out what we do afterwards, do we ascend, will we all be linked to each other, what will our values be. That's far ahead but not really because it starts with the brain-computer interface and efforts in that area are ongoing. We know where it starts, we don't know where it goes.

Energy is about energy harvesting and storage plus increased efficiency so the path forward is already defined. Maybe wilreless power delivery is important enough too.

I would also factor in how full presence VR(feels real in every way) and 3D printing impact IoT. Full presence VR is similar to the impact the printing press had on books but this does it for everything that's beyond the basic necessities.



ioT is often not the most efficient way to solve a problem either. Do you need lots of sensors and connected appliances in a home or are you are better off with a personal device, a robot and fewer but more capable general purpose appliances. Do you monitor crops with lots of sensors or with a drone? Is it better and cheaper to rely on V2X or should vehicles be smart enough to not require it? Corporations want to attach something to everything but too often they solve a problem that doesn't exist or they don't solve it in an efficient way. Ofc in the real world, efficiency doesn't always win, convenience does.

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where IoT matters
junko.yoshida   6/30/2017 4:39:52 AM
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I am not sure how one can come to a conclusion that "IoT feels meaningless."

If indeed you believe "people tend to need water, food, energy,healthcare and those do matter," that's precisely where IoT comes in. For sensing, tracking, monitoring and managing the quality of all those things we need, I don't know how you can do it without IoT on the long run.

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realjjj   6/30/2017 3:15:18 AM
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When it comes to consumer, the main problem for EU startups is the language barrier. Even if the market was fully unified, the marketing is problematic. Solving that is difficult.

Long term vision wise. ioT is such a small part of the future. Medium term you have glasses replacing most other displays. Robots and enhanced humans are starting now and will last for many decades. People tend to need water, food, energy,healthcare and those do matter, the most room for progress is likely with healthcare and food. 3D printing matters a lot too.

Full presence VR is maybe not factored in properly as it is too far ahead. It will have a monumental economic impact as it devalues "real" goods and services. We still need food ,water, shelter but if we want to drive a Ferrari or own an island, we can do it there for almost free.

If you think about it this way, IoT feels meaningless.

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