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iPhone X’s TrueDepth Module Dissected

Why Apple wanted ST’s NIR sensors to use SOI
11/17/2017 00:01 AM EST
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selinz
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selinz   11/23/2017 11:07:17 AM
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To Chiplady: Is it possible that a multibillion dollar company like Apple has multiple suppliers?

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pcambou   11/22/2017 1:17:07 AM
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Thank you for your interest in this article. We would have appreciated to not have such anonymous comments as there are so many trolls on the internet nowadays... But let's try to answer you in a proper way.   What we revealed is what we saw, just like Saint Thomas: our teardown allows us to understand what is really happening in the supply chain. If you were a little bit more aware of the industry and related development, you would have known that Philips Photonic has been working with ST since several years on its ToF arrays. So yes, Philips is one of the suppliers for the VCELS. Certainly not the only one, but one of the major ones for the "Proximity Detector + IR Flood Illuminator".   Regarding now the Dot Projector Price, you might be right in the fact that we may have underestimated the price. Indeed, the surface might not 0.5mm² but much more 2 mm². However, even with such increased surface, the price of the VCSEL will never reach $3. This statement comes from our +10 years expertise from reverse costing in the semiconductor industry. ASP might be in the range of $0.7 - $1.2. But not $3.   Thank you again. Feel free to give us your comments and assumptions (not anonymously if possible). We are quite open for discussion.

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Chiplady18   11/19/2017 5:51:44 PM
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I'm surprised at the magnitude of bad information in this article - this really should be designated as a "special advertising section" as EE Times has added zero content to this piece and it is clearly a propaganda piece by Yole to push the French industrial suppliers such as ST in the iPhone X. The VCSEL information is laughable as EE Times knows very well that both the Flood Illuminator and Dot Projector are Lumentum parts - Phillips is nowhere to be found in the iPhone VCSEL chain - and the Dot Projector Price is about $3 for the silicon - not 50 cents as this propoganda piece suggests. Come on EE Times - we have all come to expect MUCH better from you - maybe this one just slipped thru the cracks when nobody was looking on you, which is ok and happens to everyone from time to time - but please now step up and do the right thing and print a correction so we can all continue to respect you as a source of reliable information. It will be a sad day for the trade press industry if you let this misinformation stand. Thanks!

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