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junko.yoshida
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Re: Unintended consequences
junko.yoshida   10/7/2013 6:02:23 AM
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DrQuine, this is a brilliant list!

I love that. I think all these things need to be worked out before this idea of smartphone as a car key becomes a reality. Most likely, carmakers will give us both a regular physical car key AND smartphone car key app. (But then, we must ask, why bother developing a smart car key app?) 

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Unintended consequences
DrQuine   10/6/2013 11:06:15 PM
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Using my SmartPhone for car access sounds great ... until I think of the unintended consequences:
  • How will I lend you my car while I'm away on a business trip if I still want my SmartPhone?
  • If I can clone the key with an expiration date for your SmartPhone, how will I entend that loan when I get delayed returning home?
  • What if you don't have a compatible SmartPhone to accept the key?
  • What happens when I drop my SmartPhone in a puddle on a wilderness trip? 
  • What happens when my charger cord breaks or gets forgotten? Will I lose access to my car on a long trip - moments after my GPS goes dead so I'm both lost and locked out of my car without a phone to call for help?


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Re: smartphone as a car key
junko.yoshida   10/4/2013 4:39:29 PM
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Exactly. It would be a perfect app for zipcar!

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Re: smartphone as a car key
krisi   10/4/2013 10:47:38 AM
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It could very useful in car rentals (they will program your phone and have an electronic record of all car entries available)...or other industrial applications where multiple drivers use cars so their identity and times of use are precisely known

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Re: James Bond...
krisi   10/4/2013 10:44:41 AM
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Good point Bert Most biosensors will not work in Canada (too cold) Also it would be easy to damage a car by tampering with its sensor everywhere else

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Re: James Bond...
ip2design   10/4/2013 5:06:27 AM
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Hi,

 

Remember that amon the NFC configurations, the battery-flat case is considered.The energy is grabbed from the wave, converted by the RF front-end and given tro the secure element.

Car-Sharing with NFC has already tested in a couple of pilots in France with great success.

For those who can read french :

http://www.toulouse-metropole.fr/missions/deplacement/autopartage

 

 

 

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Re: James Bond...
junko.yoshida   10/4/2013 12:35:24 AM
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I agree. I guess this dual strategy -- let those who think it's hip to have a smartphone car key have it, but always keep a separate physical car key -- is probably the way it will unfold. After all, who wouldn't want to emulate what James Bond did 16 years ago?

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Re: keys?
junko.yoshida   10/4/2013 12:29:59 AM
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Krisi, this is HILARIOUS! Waking up one morning and finding your blue car turned into red...I know...you are so right about "they are getting away with it."

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Re: smartphone as a car key
junko.yoshida   10/4/2013 12:26:24 AM
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Damn, it sounds like Tesla owners have already thought about everything it can be done about this! Seriously, though, an app like checking the vehicle's location is actually can be useful if you live in Brooklyn or Manhattan, and forgot to ask your husband where he moved his car last (as one needs to change the side of the street often)

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Re: smartphone as a car key
Andrzej11   10/3/2013 5:50:28 PM
@Junko

Many Tesla Model S owners consider the Tesla app as being one of the best things of the Tesla ownership experience. Some have taken it even further and developed their own enhanced app called VisibleTesla. With these apps one can open and close doors, check the vehicles location(quite handy if someone manages to steal it), schedule charging and remotely adjust cabin temperature which many consider the most useful. The only thing it would seem they are missing is being able to control an e-chauffeur which I understand Elon has promised to deliver in a few years.

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