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Samsung Tips 3-Bit Vertical NAND

By   08.05.2014 0

SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Samsung announced a three-bit per cell version of its 128 Gbit vertical NAND flash is weeks away from shipping. It also launched an industry effort to tap into flash controllers for a variety of storage and compute tasks.

Within a month, Samsung could start shipping solid-state drives using new 128 Gbit V-NAND chips with 32 layers and three bits per cell. It promises to deliver twice the capacity at 40% less power than SSDs with planar NAND, said Bob Brennan, head of the company’s memory lab in San Jose, speaking in a keynote at the Flash Memory Summit here.

Brennan was not able to give performance, power consumption, or endurance details for the new flash design. Samsung announced its first V-NAND products at the event last year, a 24-layer design using two bits per cell. It announced an upgrade to a 32-layer design last month.

Chipworks posted this week a detailed analysis of Samsung’s V-NAND.

Maintaining the same cell-to-cell interference was a top challenge of the latest design, Brennan said. He predicted 256 Gbit chips will arrive in 2015 and said the company will eventually get to 100-layer Tbit chips.

“Vertical NAND has now crossed the threshold of cost, and we will continue to scale dollars per Gbyte for years to come,” Brennan said.

Separately, Brennan showed preliminary results of how flash controllers could be used to lower latency and improve performance on SSDs. The lab results encouraged the Korean giant to launch an industry initiative to leverage unused capabilities of flash controllers to handle a variety of storage and compute tasks.

A new working group in the Storage Networking Interface Alliance will work on an API for the so-called intelligent storage initiative. The NVMe group that developed a new interface for SSDs riding the PCI Express bus will also start a working group in the area, Brennan said in a brief interview with EE Times after his keynote. The T10 and T13 storage standards groups may also work on the initiative.

“We decided over the last couple months to open this up to the industry,” Brennan told EE Times “We took a risk putting this out before we have all the questions answered, but we don’t think it’s right to invite collaboration when you have a fully baked solution,” he said.

Making data about the performance of flash chips available to storage applications is a first step. The initiative ultimately aims to open up flash controllers as a distributed resource for any tasks in a datacenter, he said.

“There will be hundreds if not thousands of SSDs in the datacenter over time with their processors only busy at peak times,” he told attendees here.

The initial work took place in Samsung labs in Korea and San Jose using an SSD with a serial ATA interface. Samsung has not decided yet whether it will turn its lab work into a product, Brennan told EE Times.

The news came just minutes after a datacenter manager from China’s Alibaba called for closer data links between flash memory chips and applications using them. “This is the sort of applications-centric approach we have been seeking,” Wu Peng, the Alibaba keynoter, told EE Times after the Samsung talk.


— Rick Merritt, Silicon Valley Bureau Chief, EE Times Circle me on Google+

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rick merritt   2014-08-06 14:33:22

I'd like to hear wha folks think about the smart flash initiative Samsung is driving at SNIA, NVMe, etc.

Can we access the many flash controllers in a data center to do other jobs or will this be a mess that goes no where...or?

resistion   2014-08-06 22:23:24

Whether direct shrinking, more bits per cell, or more vertical layers, the complexity and associated cost is countering the normally expected decrease of cost per bit. The bit quality is degraded. So of course, managing so many bits in one place would place a lot of demand on the controller. The controller cost should therefore be considered in the system cost to be fair. Then flash won't look so cheap anymore.

sw guy   2014-08-07 07:05:57

Could be, at least partialy, compensated by the fact that controller is until now poised to take full benefit of shrinkage.

Nevertheless, I too have the feeling flash is the only sector I know where manufacters are proud to annouce new *less* reliable product.

resistion   2014-08-07 09:19:10

Agreed. Controllers are one or two generations away from 28 nm. The more demands, the faster they'll get there.

krisi   2014-08-07 09:45:08

are controllers really that advanced in manucturing? one generation away from 28nm...I would think 65nm or 90nm would be more than sufficient for any controller, how many gates do you need?

resistion   2014-08-07 09:50:06

Hi Kris, one controller I checked(http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/jmicron-jmf667h-ssd-benchmark,3834.html) is made with 55nm, the only reason why further scaling came up is previous post sw guy noted that controller scaling is one way to address slowdown of cost reduction from need for more advanced controllers.

krisi   2014-08-07 10:19:49

thank you @resistion...I just thought that few millions gates would be sufficient for the controller implementation so there is no need to go down to 28nm

TanjB   2014-08-08 21:29:30

@resition That is an unusually through review, quite interesting.

SSD controllers have a history of being stripped down to basics.  A couple of years ago they were typically an ARC processor, stepped up to ARM these days.  The ECC is a major IP block but it probably is more a problem of having rights to a competent design than it is a large number of gates.

In the PCIe era we are going to see "ordinary" drives in the 1TB range have thruputs in the 1.5 to 2.0 GB/s range, about 3x faster than SATA-3.  The NVMe command set is inherently efficient to handle, but still the controller will need to track the sector mappings, plan block erases in advance, infer sequentiality in user patterns, monitor wear levelling, as well as move data.  So we might see some pressure to move to the 28..35 nm range, probably an LP process, in the next wave of controllers.  Especially as the flood gates seem to have opened for 28nm capacity and new chips seem to come out every day.  With more mature design pipeline and less cost/delay on production it won't be long.

I wonder what Novachips is using for the HLSSD controller?  That seems pretty fancy.

 

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